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>> eric: chrysler said we don't like to decision. we would have fired them but they can't. >> kimberly: they have protection. bostonright to work means whoever is not a union member gets the sweat they put in to it to get the good jobs. they're scabs because they don't put in the union political fund. >> dana: 24 states have lower unemployment rate and other states are not right to work, while shouldn't michigan, at least they have a democratic process. it's passed. the governor has been thoughtful about it. people, majority of people support it. why not let them try something that would alter history? >> kimberly: why not? >> bob: why not bad handguns in countries that don't have murder. here we ban them and it -- >> greg: the funny thing is we talk about greece, but before there was greece, there was detroit. detroit is greece. if it was only the acropolis. dead city. people left because they couldn't make a living, the unions suffocate pod tenial. >> bob: true about toledo and cleveland and cincinnati? the northern cities that hav
>> eric: chrysler said we don't like to decision. we would have fired them but they can't. >> kimberly: they have protection. bostonright to work means whoever is not a union member gets the sweat they put in to it to get the good jobs. they're scabs because they don't put in the union political fund. >> dana: 24 states have lower unemployment rate and other states are not right to work, while shouldn't michigan, at least they have a democratic process. it's passed. the...
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as a result of what he found he brought it to chrysler's attention. 13 employees fired following chrysler's investigation. two suspended 30 days. all of them back at work. check this out. roll the tape. >> hey, guys, hate to be a buzz kill, shouldn't you guys building cars? the government spent a lot of money bailing you guys out and you're coming out here on lunch break drinking like this? where are you guys going, man? >> reporter: they got out but didn't essentially get away because they lost their jobs. two years later most are back, reinstated 30 days later. they were drinking out of paper bags and reportedly smoking marijuana. the jefferson north assembly plant in michigan where this was taking place, they were part of the auto industry that received what was collectively millions in taxpayer bailout money, martha. martha: interesting. good reporting. jamie, thank you very much. >> reporter: sure. bill: was that guy driving away in a ford mustang in the story? guilty as charged. see you at lunch today, martha. unions planning, another mass protest tomorrow in the state of michigan. wh
as a result of what he found he brought it to chrysler's attention. 13 employees fired following chrysler's investigation. two suspended 30 days. all of them back at work. check this out. roll the tape. >> hey, guys, hate to be a buzz kill, shouldn't you guys building cars? the government spent a lot of money bailing you guys out and you're coming out here on lunch break drinking like this? where are you guys going, man? >> reporter: they got out but didn't essentially get away...
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and chrysler into bankruptcy and sold chrysler to italians who are going to build jeeps in china. strangers and ignoring our friends. the chill of peppermint. the rich dark chocolate. york peppermint pattie get the sensation. >> cenk: politico is a fact-checking organization and they've been doing something over the last couple of years "the lie of year." >> obama: took g.m. and chrysler into bankruptcy and sold chrysler to italians who are going to build jeeps in china. >> cenk: oh, my god, they're moving all the jeep jobs to china. then the ceo put out a statement. i feel obliged to state our position. jeep production will not be used tofrom the united states to children. it is inaccurate to suggest anything different. they knew it wasn't true, and even after this statement mitt romney kept saying over and over again, they're going to move all the jeep jobs to china. can you believe it? so that wound up being lie of the year for political fact. they asked readers to pick out the top lies of the year. the top five. here's the first one. >> what we now have is the biggest tax incr
and chrysler into bankruptcy and sold chrysler to italians who are going to build jeeps in china. strangers and ignoring our friends. the chill of peppermint. the rich dark chocolate. york peppermint pattie get the sensation. >> cenk: politico is a fact-checking organization and they've been doing something over the last couple of years "the lie of year." >> obama: took g.m. and chrysler into bankruptcy and sold chrysler to italians who are going to build jeeps in china....
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and chrysler into bankruptcy and sold chrysler to [ male announcer ] you like who you are... and you learned something along the way. this is the age of knowing what you're made of. so, why let erectile dysfunction get in your way? talk to your doctor about viagra. 20 million men already have. ask if your heart is healthy enough for sex. do not take viagra if you take nitrates for chest pain; it may cause an unsafe drop in blood pressure. side effects include headache, flushing upset stomach, and abnormal vision. to avoid long-term injury, seek immediate medical help for an erection lasting more than four hours. stop taking viagra and call your doctor right away if you experience a sudden decrease or loss in vision or hearing. this is the age of taking action. viagra. talk to your doctor. see if america's most prescribed ed treatment is right for you. >> cenk: politico is a fact-checking organization and they've been doing something over the last couple of years "the lie of year." >> obama: took g.m. and chrysler into bankruptcy and sold chrysler to italians who are going to
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you put chrysler in very awkward position. >> i did put chrysler in awkward position, no two ways about it. it is really workers fault. they are the guys that did it. there are a lot of people working in the factory and i'm hearing from the people in the factory right now, majority of people that i have been hearing from that work in the factory are not really thrilled that these guys are coming back. megyn: they gave them all a black eye. >> the people in the factory don't want the guys working in there. megyn: majority of the workers are hard-working people who don't get hammered on the lunch break and go back and build our jeeps. they took a beating as well in the public. i want to talk about whether this is the new state? we've been talking about unions in this program as michigan is now a right-to-work state and this is where this happened, in michigan. i will pick up on that and how this story plays in right after the break. we'll carry you guys over. stay with me. hmm, it says here that cheerios helps lower cholesterol as part of a heart healthy diet. that's true. ...but you stil
you put chrysler in very awkward position. >> i did put chrysler in awkward position, no two ways about it. it is really workers fault. they are the guys that did it. there are a lot of people working in the factory and i'm hearing from the people in the factory right now, majority of people that i have been hearing from that work in the factory are not really thrilled that these guys are coming back. megyn: they gave them all a black eye. >> the people in the factory don't want the...
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and recently we saw one thing you really should shock some people is in 2010 there were 13 sort of chrysler workers who were fired for using alcohol and marijuana on the job making cars. two years later all 13 of them got their jobs back basically because of union backed arbitration and let them go back to work. union rules to not make a very efficient and what everybody is looking to do is basically to ban the automatic deductions from payrolls going to union fees for those who don't join union workers. they're trying to be very pro-worker. tracy: let's face it. i don't want to be forced at work, don't want to feel as a worker so it is good for me too. it feels almost odd entire south is still union where you get your northeast states all rights to work. why is there such a division? >> i really can't tell you, but it's postmarked the mentality the workers should be freed to make their own decisions. while republicans can push the bill through. obviously the unions and the uaw are crying uncle, but the time has come. tracy: union membership is falling precipitously. now you have political
and recently we saw one thing you really should shock some people is in 2010 there were 13 sort of chrysler workers who were fired for using alcohol and marijuana on the job making cars. two years later all 13 of them got their jobs back basically because of union backed arbitration and let them go back to work. union rules to not make a very efficient and what everybody is looking to do is basically to ban the automatic deductions from payrolls going to union fees for those who don't join...
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, they also put out a radio ad that said the same thing, and they continued to repeat it even after chrysler and the fact checkers had said it was simply not true. jeep was actually expanding its production in the u.s. the reason it was thinking of building, that it's planning to build a plant in china is to meet the increased demand for jeeps in china, so it was just blatantly false and yet they persisted with it. >> you know what's interesting, too, remember when the chrysler ceo, sergio marchione had to put out a statement basically saying, liar, liar, pants on fire, this is not going to happen. that's never, or more nicely i'm obliged to unambiguously restate our position. jeep production will not be moved from the united states to china. it is inaccurate to suggest anything different. there were strategists who were stunned that this ad, that this was being said, because they thought it was kind of signaled a desperate move. what was the runner-up, what was the next runner-up that could have been picked as the biggest lie? >> well we had ten finalists and i should note that we had a rea
, they also put out a radio ad that said the same thing, and they continued to repeat it even after chrysler and the fact checkers had said it was simply not true. jeep was actually expanding its production in the u.s. the reason it was thinking of building, that it's planning to build a plant in china is to meet the increased demand for jeeps in china, so it was just blatantly false and yet they persisted with it. >> you know what's interesting, too, remember when the chrysler ceo,...
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all chrysler said is it may make extra jeeps in china. here's what i said about romney's surprising misunderstanding of the auto industry back then. >> for decades and decades and decades, american auto companies have made cars in the countries or the regions in which they sell them. i want to remind americans when they buy toyotas and hondas and hyundais and nissans in america that are assembled here, back home somebody said why are you shipping our jobs to america? it shows a misunderstanding by the romney camp to try and get under people's nails about jobs and cars being made elsewhere. >> christine didn't see that coming and got stuck listening to my rant. they knew all of this very well and chrysler immediately denied the claim and romney stood by his ad. i don't need to tell you what an important swing state ohio is. there may be a host of reasons he department carry the state in the end, but his stunt didn't help. he tried to deceive ohioans and it backfired. mitt romney lost his best chance at the white house. the lie of the year
all chrysler said is it may make extra jeeps in china. here's what i said about romney's surprising misunderstanding of the auto industry back then. >> for decades and decades and decades, american auto companies have made cars in the countries or the regions in which they sell them. i want to remind americans when they buy toyotas and hondas and hyundais and nissans in america that are assembled here, back home somebody said why are you shipping our jobs to america? it shows a...
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he made a statement that chrysler was taking the jeeps and going to china with them. that's just wrong. flat-out wrong. >> andrea: by the time the ad came out it was factually correct. >> greg: by the way, if it was a flubb, which -- look, how could it be any worse than accusing mitt romney of murder? >> dana: they actually had to admit they got it wrong. even the people on the left said -- >> bob: can we go back to susan rice for a second. they talk about her being the national security advisor, which does require senator approval. my trend tom donal the current national security advisor, nobody easily pushed around, i think you look at him as potential secretary of state nominee as well. >> eric: what about john kerry? >> dana: holy freddie mac, batman. >> andrea: who is fact checking the fact checkers? how can someone call themselveses a fact checker? so greg, i'm just going to call myself a fact checker right now and say the lie of the year was politifact but it was that romney was wrong to claim spending under obama accelerated at a pace without precedence in his
he made a statement that chrysler was taking the jeeps and going to china with them. that's just wrong. flat-out wrong. >> andrea: by the time the ad came out it was factually correct. >> greg: by the way, if it was a flubb, which -- look, how could it be any worse than accusing mitt romney of murder? >> dana: they actually had to admit they got it wrong. even the people on the left said -- >> bob: can we go back to susan rice for a second. they talk about her being the...
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chrysler rehiring union workers it fired after very public embarrassing incident. why the turn around? >> a local television statement had videotape of these workers on a break looking like they were smoking pot, drinking. this is a very public story in detroit. people were outraged saying, look, there is the problem with you with the union workers. they violate terms. they went to mediator and the mediator said, can you prove they were smoebing pot? ? no. can you prove they were drinking alcohol? no. so the mediator said you have to rehire them. chrysler is not happy. they put out a statement saying, yes, he had to rehire the employees. while the company does not agree with the ultimate decision of the arbitrator, we respect the grievance process as outlined in the collective bargaining agreement and our relationship with the uaw. these workers are going back on the job. but this is the kind of thing in detroit people look at and say, give me a break. these guys were caught doing something on camera that was clearly maybe not legally could be proven to be wrong, b
chrysler rehiring union workers it fired after very public embarrassing incident. why the turn around? >> a local television statement had videotape of these workers on a break looking like they were smoking pot, drinking. this is a very public story in detroit. people were outraged saying, look, there is the problem with you with the union workers. they violate terms. they went to mediator and the mediator said, can you prove they were smoebing pot? ? no. can you prove they were drinking...
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it owns the land beneath the chrysler building, but the school says it's operating at a loss and the shortfall has to come from somewhere, including from the students. never mind what the school's founder and namesake said about a free education for any student. if you know anything about students, you know the evolving school tuition policy has not been accepted by the student body. they did not shrug and say, oh, well, before stopping in for a student loan application. instead right now they're staging a sit-in. they barricaded themselves inside an eighth floor rook in the clock tower where lincoln spoke on that legendary night. they've been there since monday setting up camp. we're here, we're staying, we forgot coffee. they demanded the school, quote, publicly affirm its commitment to free education. this morning another group of students invited themselves to the meeting of the board of trustees so they could take minutes arguing they needed transparency and student involvement. students are fighting against rising tuition costs. these guys are fighting to remain one of the few
it owns the land beneath the chrysler building, but the school says it's operating at a loss and the shortfall has to come from somewhere, including from the students. never mind what the school's founder and namesake said about a free education for any student. if you know anything about students, you know the evolving school tuition policy has not been accepted by the student body. they did not shrug and say, oh, well, before stopping in for a student loan application. instead right now...
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with the ceos, they are shell shocked even for these guys, like the guys in chrysler building they go in there they don't know what to do. >> i'm a very literal person when i get an invite, they tell me they want me to speak my mind, i do, maybe i should be more little bit ily correct. but they are -- politically correct. they are good people are they are great leaders,. neil: has anyone declined? >> the ones that can figure out a raireally good excuse to not , don't go, it is a terrible distraction, their pr people are coaching them, and coaching them. they don't want to say something that will damage the shareholders, so they play the game. neil: you know, a lot of these guys, have said, and women, have been saying, mr. president, we think a deal should be struck, and revenues should be part. we don't like some of them said, i'm paraphrasing, we donnt like this dispractic dispractice pori weighted. >> he is doing this for optics, inviting them in say, go back and sell the american people on the idea, he does not care what they have to say, he has made up his mind. the republicans an
with the ceos, they are shell shocked even for these guys, like the guys in chrysler building they go in there they don't know what to do. >> i'm a very literal person when i get an invite, they tell me they want me to speak my mind, i do, maybe i should be more little bit ily correct. but they are -- politically correct. they are good people are they are great leaders,. neil: has anyone declined? >> the ones that can figure out a raireally good excuse to not , don't go, it is a...
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the chrysler workers got their jobs back. chrysler rehired the workers that were fired. let's bring in the investigative reporter that broke the story two years ago. he's been following it through. my obvious question is these guys have got their jobs back. do you get back-pay? do you know whether they do or not? >> i do not know whether they do or not. i asked that question. in fact when i talked to the girl from chrysler when i first found out about this on friday that they got their jobs back, i talked to her. i asked her a bunch of questions. i was kind of shocked and flabbergasted even though you had called it, you said they were going to get their jobs back a couple of years ago. you were absolutely right about that, stuart. but anyway, when i talked to her, i hung up the phone and i stopped, thought about it, i said my gosh i've got to find out if they are getting that back-pay. i called her back and all of a sudden she kind of clammed up and said that it was a personnel matter and she couldn't say if they got back-pay. so i could not tell you if they got back-pay
the chrysler workers got their jobs back. chrysler rehired the workers that were fired. let's bring in the investigative reporter that broke the story two years ago. he's been following it through. my obvious question is these guys have got their jobs back. do you get back-pay? do you know whether they do or not? >> i do not know whether they do or not. i asked that question. in fact when i talked to the girl from chrysler when i first found out about this on friday that they got their...
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chrysler said that. not the union. >> sorry, sorry. chrysler said that. so like next time something falls off your chrysler, like your steering wheel cover kind of slips off, now we know why, because you're like sailing -- 30,000 feet up high. knobs always fall off. let's get another nickel bag before i go back to work. ridiculous! >> gretchen: it speaks to the power of the union. it really does. and whatever they had in the language of their contract, the arbitrator sided with them. so they must have this sort of ironclad language. you're a lawyer what, do you think? >> well, i think chrysler is now on the receiving end of what so many others feel in states where unions are really powerful. and so they're now the ones who have to deal with it. as a legal matter, i don't think chrysler is going to be able to challenge this. i think the ruling is going to stand and maybe chrysler will rue the day they were so lax and tolerant of union power. >> steve: speaking of power. powerball, the second guy who won t
chrysler said that. not the union. >> sorry, sorry. chrysler said that. so like next time something falls off your chrysler, like your steering wheel cover kind of slips off, now we know why, because you're like sailing -- 30,000 feet up high. knobs always fall off. let's get another nickel bag before i go back to work. ridiculous! >> gretchen: it speaks to the power of the union. it really does. and whatever they had in the language of their contract, the arbitrator sided with...
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and because of that the june appealed the fact that chrysler terminated these employees. they are entitled to as union employees to receive collective bargaining and have an arbitration they have reinstated it. >> who ordered it? >> the arbitrator in the state of michigan that was in charge of that area. >> the arbitrator ordered these guys back correct because they said there was insufficient evidence. there was no charges. this is suffice the fact that a reporter we spoke to mr. well check from fox 2 the news area there, he actually saw it, witnessed it, broke the story, smelled the pot, the whole thing, the moral of the story is call the cops when you walk in on union workers with or any workers that are. >> otherwise you don't have case. >> i want to be perfectly clear and you are the person to do it for the whole audience watching tonight let me get this straight the union said is this the united auto workers union, i assume? >> yes. >> to the state arbiter or to the by appoint want, all right? there is no evidence that they were drinking and smoking pot on the job.
and because of that the june appealed the fact that chrysler terminated these employees. they are entitled to as union employees to receive collective bargaining and have an arbitration they have reinstated it. >> who ordered it? >> the arbitrator in the state of michigan that was in charge of that area. >> the arbitrator ordered these guys back correct because they said there was insufficient evidence. there was no charges. this is suffice the fact that a reporter we spoke to...
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chrysler said it disagrees with the decision but it wants to move forward. a suspect in texas not letting a little thing like handcuffs. take a look. guy stealing the cop tar while handcuff. see darren douglas porter sneak into the driver's seat after rolling down the rear window which isn't supposed to roll down. cops were talking to one another. and about some store that he allegedly burglarized and 41-year-old abandoned the car a few blocks away. cops are confident they will catch him soon. so he did get away. most viewed youtube video ever and smash hit in the u.s. did the gangnam style rapper once wish death to american soldiers? ♪ gangnam style ♪ >> by the way gangnam is the wealthest area of south korea. back in 2004, rapper psy called for slow and painful death for soldiers in iraq and their families. he has recently apologized and set to perform for the president during a christmas special which tapes tomorrow in washington. an online petition asks that psy be removed from the show but that petition has since been taken down. the president still
chrysler said it disagrees with the decision but it wants to move forward. a suspect in texas not letting a little thing like handcuffs. take a look. guy stealing the cop tar while handcuff. see darren douglas porter sneak into the driver's seat after rolling down the rear window which isn't supposed to roll down. cops were talking to one another. and about some store that he allegedly burglarized and 41-year-old abandoned the car a few blocks away. cops are confident they will catch him soon....
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so the employers, let's say general motors, ford, chrysler, the automobile manufacturers, since we're talking about michigan, they all made lots of money. and the workers who worked for those companies were middle class and their children went to college and became lawyers and doctors and accountants and some of them even went back to work in the factories. but now, seven days it took to crush the ability of workers to stand together financially. they'll never crush the spirit of the workers but they have used the law with no public hearings new york committee action, no regular course of action during the legislation, during the legislative session, which is a lame duck legislative session by the way, no regular order, just a sneak attack thursday morning, the sixth of november, one month after the landslide election in michigan and throughout this country, that turned back the corporate money that was arrayed against the democrats. and arrayed against president obama. it turned that back. a resounding victory on november 6, on december 6, a sneak attack while during a lame duck sess
so the employers, let's say general motors, ford, chrysler, the automobile manufacturers, since we're talking about michigan, they all made lots of money. and the workers who worked for those companies were middle class and their children went to college and became lawyers and doctors and accountants and some of them even went back to work in the factories. but now, seven days it took to crush the ability of workers to stand together financially. they'll never crush the spirit of the workers...
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chrysler now twice. we see that in the southern states where the transplants are without the unions. they weren't the ones who went bankrupt last -- in 2008 and 2009. so it really is a choice. it's a tough choice. and i sympathize with the unions but the fact is that in the global economy where you have to compete on wages and other elements, of the units of production, can you either have, you know, high wages with low employment or you can, as obama would say, spread around the wealth. the fact is that in the right-to-work states, unemployment is 6.9%. >> we have a graphic that shows right-to-work vs. non-right to work statements on employment, go ahead. >> and in the other stays the non-right-to-work it's 8.7. so you can choose to have fewer workers who enjoy higher inflated unnatural, if you like, wangs on uncompetitive wages. or competitive wages and more people employed. more people with the dignity of a job and less unemployment. more taxation and more activity. i think it's it the right choice bu
chrysler now twice. we see that in the southern states where the transplants are without the unions. they weren't the ones who went bankrupt last -- in 2008 and 2009. so it really is a choice. it's a tough choice. and i sympathize with the unions but the fact is that in the global economy where you have to compete on wages and other elements, of the units of production, can you either have, you know, high wages with low employment or you can, as obama would say, spread around the wealth. the...
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he had been scheduled to help announce daimler chrysler's factory expansion outside detroit. president obama took the opportunity to tell the workers and michigan republican leaders where he stands on union busting. >> we should do everything we can to encourage companies like daimler to keep investing in american workers. and by the way, what we shouldn't do -- i just got to say this. what we shouldn't be doing is trying to take away your rights to bargain for better wages or working conditions. we shouldn't be doing that. you know -- [ cheering and applause ] you know, these so-called right-to-work laws, they don't have to do with economics. they have everything to do with politics. what they're really talking about is giving you the right to work for less money. >> this is what the president is talking about. a union membership goes down. as it goes down, all middle class income shrinks. without collective bargaining, workers lose the power to demand better wages. this is a direct attack on the middle class. >> you only have to look to michigan, where workers were instrume
he had been scheduled to help announce daimler chrysler's factory expansion outside detroit. president obama took the opportunity to tell the workers and michigan republican leaders where he stands on union busting. >> we should do everything we can to encourage companies like daimler to keep investing in american workers. and by the way, what we shouldn't do -- i just got to say this. what we shouldn't be doing is trying to take away your rights to bargain for better wages or working...
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that would be president obama sold chrysler to italy which would then move u.s. jeep production to china. chrysler denied the claim. the media said it was untrue. the public was outraged. the romney campaign spread it anyway. we're back after the alright, in 15 minutes we're going to do the young turks. i think the number one thing that viewers like about the young turks is that we're honest. they know that i'm not bs'ing them with some hidden agenda, actually supporting one party or the other. when the democrats are wrong, they know that i'm going to be the first one to call them out. they can question whether i'm right, but i think that the audience gets that this guy, to the best of his ability, is trying to look out for us. [ male announcer ] red lobster's hitting the streets to tell real people about our new 15 under $15 menu. oh my goodness! oh my gosh this looks amazing! [ male announcer ] our new maine stays! 15 entrees under $15 seafood, chicken and more! oo! the tilapia with roasted vegetables! i'm actually looking at the wood grilled chicken with porto
that would be president obama sold chrysler to italy which would then move u.s. jeep production to china. chrysler denied the claim. the media said it was untrue. the public was outraged. the romney campaign spread it anyway. we're back after the alright, in 15 minutes we're going to do the young turks. i think the number one thing that viewers like about the young turks is that we're honest. they know that i'm not bs'ing them with some hidden agenda, actually supporting one party or the other....
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there's no money in the federal till to bail out detroit, especially after we bailed out gm and chrysler already. >> larry, i say let it fail. i'm sorry. you have. to i want those people to have local control. they fought for that local control. they should have a vote. the citizens of the city of detroit should have a vote. but it should fail when it goes wrong. that's what has to happen. the good news is we've now got in michigan as of yesterday we've got legislation pass today make michigan a right to work state. that's going to have a big impact down the road. >> i like that. i like the failure idea. free market capitalism is about success and failure. and as the great free market capitalist nobel prize winner wrote, of the two, doc, sometimes failure teaches us more than success. i like your point very, very much. all right. doc thompson coming out of detroit, thanks very much. >>> now let's talk about the cuts plan for the federal workforce. with the countdown to the fiscal cliff at 24 days, the "washington post" reporting today that federal agencies are sharpening their plans befo
there's no money in the federal till to bail out detroit, especially after we bailed out gm and chrysler already. >> larry, i say let it fail. i'm sorry. you have. to i want those people to have local control. they fought for that local control. they should have a vote. the citizens of the city of detroit should have a vote. but it should fail when it goes wrong. that's what has to happen. the good news is we've now got in michigan as of yesterday we've got legislation pass today make...
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we sat down with ford, general motors, and chrysler, our membership made sacrifices so we could get more economic development, more product, investment. billions of dollars is going into michigan because of unions and collective bargaining helping not just union workers but workers, all workers throughout the state. and you know, chris, and i know, in right to work states, average income is down, average wages is down, not as much pension or retirement security is in union states, less spending on k through 12 education, less spending on infrastructure. why? because workers make less, less tax revenue coming in. right to work is bad for americans. >> why do people like the koch brothers oppose unionization, mr. hagerstrom? >> unions will continue to thrive and to go forward. this gives individuals the right to determine what happens to their hard-earned money. you do not have to give your hard-earned money to a private organization to keep your job. it's that simple. it's that simple. this is going to move michigan forward. it's going to move our state forward, allow us to compete for gr
we sat down with ford, general motors, and chrysler, our membership made sacrifices so we could get more economic development, more product, investment. billions of dollars is going into michigan because of unions and collective bargaining helping not just union workers but workers, all workers throughout the state. and you know, chris, and i know, in right to work states, average income is down, average wages is down, not as much pension or retirement security is in union states, less spending...
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they don't want to have happen to them what happened to general motors or chrysler. yothey make it less profitable r unions. as a result you get more invested and more jobs. jobs are one thing michigan definitely needs. lori: i agree. the unions would argue many of the freedoms, many of the advantages their workers enjoy her because of the lobbies and the history they have had, therefore the unions are deservedly deserve their dues. >> if you can persuade workers to give you their money, that is fantastic, that is your constitutional right. they should not be forced to pay dues to the union. 20% of union households in michigan support the right to work law. probably because there's a awful lot of union workers don't go there again the value worth of their dues or supports priorities. they should have a choice, that is their right. lori: we have seen unions lose membership, lot less clout than in generations past. how do you characterize the influence of unions right now? >> it is a competitive marketplace. up through the late 70s the detroit automakers headlock on th
they don't want to have happen to them what happened to general motors or chrysler. yothey make it less profitable r unions. as a result you get more invested and more jobs. jobs are one thing michigan definitely needs. lori: i agree. the unions would argue many of the freedoms, many of the advantages their workers enjoy her because of the lobbies and the history they have had, therefore the unions are deservedly deserve their dues. >> if you can persuade workers to give you their money,...
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chrysler now twice . we see it in the southern states where the plants are. they were not the ones that went bankrupt in 2008 and 9. it really is a tough choice and i sympathize with the unions. but in the global economy where you compete on wages and other units of production . you can either have high wages with low employment or as obama said spread around the wealth. >> gretchen: michigan is the heart of the labor industry in this nation specifically whether so many cars are made and the unions are powerful there. it is emblematic and we look back on history. this move to make michigan a right to work state will be historic for that reason alone . what needs to be so clear in the discussion, it is really about choice. it is not about tamping down people's rights. it is actually moving them up and saying you now have a choice. you can pay your dues to the union, or you can choose not to pay the dues. >> steve: what happened in michigan is a great thing. because any time the government insists that you have to pay to go in and get a paycheck, that is it a s
chrysler now twice . we see it in the southern states where the plants are. they were not the ones that went bankrupt in 2008 and 9. it really is a tough choice and i sympathize with the unions. but in the global economy where you compete on wages and other units of production . you can either have high wages with low employment or as obama said spread around the wealth. >> gretchen: michigan is the heart of the labor industry in this nation specifically whether so many cars are made and...
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but then the topics on the union, chrysler wanted to fire workers who were spot smoking spot and getting drunk. they were off the clock and came back to work on the assembly line. the arbitration guy said you have to hire them back. fair or unfair? >> i'm trying to get over this. if i got scarred for every time somebody called me fat i'd be nothing but scar tissue. it doesn't bother me. >> kimberly: you like it because i said i like meaty men. >> bob: what is the big deal? he said fat. >> dana: didn't say it to their face. it was on the receipt. >> bob: if you fired everybody out smoking on the lunch break after the country would be out of work. >> eric: may i weigh in? >> dana: yes. >> eric: this is the problem with america we're worried about firing people. business owners if you want fire them because they called someone fat, fire them. guess what? he is not going to get employed until he turns his ways around. fire away. fire that guyer radio d.j. good luck getting more radio d.j.s. turned around and the unions tell you, you can't fire someone for doing something wrong the whole worl
but then the topics on the union, chrysler wanted to fire workers who were spot smoking spot and getting drunk. they were off the clock and came back to work on the assembly line. the arbitration guy said you have to hire them back. fair or unfair? >> i'm trying to get over this. if i got scarred for every time somebody called me fat i'd be nothing but scar tissue. it doesn't bother me. >> kimberly: you like it because i said i like meaty men. >> bob: what is the big deal? he...
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like the daimlerchrysler -- it is not chrysler anymore. it is a daimler plant. just walk in and talk to the management. in fact, i did talk to management. i talked to labor representatives and they talk how they worked together, these last years. he's decided to do is -- the governor, is the opposite. i talked to someone who's a union rep and he goes down to north carolina where there's a plant there, a daimler plant doing the same work. and it is a right-to-work state. >> bill: mmm. >> so they have a t-shirt there and it says "i ride, you pay." >> bill: oh, wow. freeloaders. >> free riders. so people don't have to pay a share of the cost of representation. and participating in that is such a good, american idea. isn't that responsibility? >> bill: of course. if any state exemplifies what can be done when labor and management works together it is michigan and uaw and the big three. as you say. and rick snyder just breaking with that tradition. so congressman, what happens -- i have to say for current tv, this would not have happened if our current tv's jennifer
like the daimlerchrysler -- it is not chrysler anymore. it is a daimler plant. just walk in and talk to the management. in fact, i did talk to management. i talked to labor representatives and they talk how they worked together, these last years. he's decided to do is -- the governor, is the opposite. i talked to someone who's a union rep and he goes down to north carolina where there's a plant there, a daimler plant doing the same work. and it is a right-to-work state. >> bill: mmm....
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striking then that ford motor company ceo said at the time, and i quote, we believe that if gm and chrysler gone into freefall bankruptcy they would have taken the supply base down and taken the industry down, but maybe turn the u.s. recession into a depression, closed quote. that is a teaching moment about the power of the overall innovative skill set, the supply chain, and what that means for our capacity to compete when the company that would've been left standing thought they might have gone down as well. so, there's so much to say. i want to make these viewpoints, overall perspective, talk a little bit about manufacturing, about research and develop skills, and i'd be very happy to take your questions going forward. [applause] >> we have time for a few questions. i will call on people. if you can wait for christine to come around with a microphone. >> thank you. rob, invest in state we're in manufacturing invested in 20 states. my question goes to innovation funds which you brought it. at which stage are you focusing on? is it with respect to either extension or the startups? then on a
striking then that ford motor company ceo said at the time, and i quote, we believe that if gm and chrysler gone into freefall bankruptcy they would have taken the supply base down and taken the industry down, but maybe turn the u.s. recession into a depression, closed quote. that is a teaching moment about the power of the overall innovative skill set, the supply chain, and what that means for our capacity to compete when the company that would've been left standing thought they might have...
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without federal money, chrysler and gm would have gone bust. >> the liquidity. like aig -- >> exactly. let me finish. you talk about it's all wasted. that's not true. that's not true. some of it is well spent. and i think you should answer your question. sandy, not named after me, had a major impact on the east coast. there's been a request for help from the federal government. i'm all in favor of accountability. >> but did you have accountability with katrina? i don't think so. it's your constituents that are paying for the wasteful money. if you're coming here telling your constituents, you really don't -- >> no, look, i'm saying, i'm in favor of accountability. >> the congressman from new jersey needs to speak up for the state. >> i'm in favor of accountability. let me finish. after accountability is built in, will you vote yes or no? >> i will be supportive of slaks once we have the accountability in place. >> good. >> work with me on the accountability, fantastic. >> absolutely. i'll make sure the people in new jersey and new york are not left high and driv
without federal money, chrysler and gm would have gone bust. >> the liquidity. like aig -- >> exactly. let me finish. you talk about it's all wasted. that's not true. that's not true. some of it is well spent. and i think you should answer your question. sandy, not named after me, had a major impact on the east coast. there's been a request for help from the federal government. i'm all in favor of accountability. >> but did you have accountability with katrina? i don't think...
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only would apply to public sector workers, it would apply to those workers that worked for ford, gm, chrysler, all of the unions here. so protesters here are storming through the halls of this state capital in lansing yesterday. i want you to take a listen to what one protester said. >> it terrifies me they are trying to pass this through with no discussion from the other side. no understanding of what's important in it. >> reporter: the union members that were protesting chanting things like "union busting is disgusting." it did not go through public debate, but the republican mayor here insists that this is beneficial for the workers. here's his take. >> to give freedom of choice to our workplace and that legislators move promptly and efficiently in moving it through the legislature and when it arrives on my desk, i plan on signing it. >>. the data shows it's right to work for less. it's an effort by the wealthy, by people like the right wing that they want to push workers wages and benefits down. >> reporter: that coming from the head of the united auto workers here. a labor lawyer i spoke
only would apply to public sector workers, it would apply to those workers that worked for ford, gm, chrysler, all of the unions here. so protesters here are storming through the halls of this state capital in lansing yesterday. i want you to take a listen to what one protester said. >> it terrifies me they are trying to pass this through with no discussion from the other side. no understanding of what's important in it. >> reporter: the union members that were protesting chanting...
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not the chrysler building, you can see in the middle of the picture. i have always been worried about that. it feels like a cross between a needle on a record player or on a syringe. but the building that your uncle is all upset about is the one on the right there. the greenish one with the nice view across the east river. that building is the world headquarters of the united nations. the place where it might sound like they are talking about putting bike racks in city downtowns. but your crazy uncle know what is they really mean is world domination by the antichrist who works at the united nations and is also president obama. there have been far right conspiracy theories about the united nations as long as we have had both the united nations and far right hysterics. but today the far right got loose in the united states senate. it seems to have freaked out even some of the republican party. and that story is next. >>> we will rise. >> today's protest took place this morning. the american public transit association is holding their annual convention. >
not the chrysler building, you can see in the middle of the picture. i have always been worried about that. it feels like a cross between a needle on a record player or on a syringe. but the building that your uncle is all upset about is the one on the right there. the greenish one with the nice view across the east river. that building is the world headquarters of the united nations. the place where it might sound like they are talking about putting bike racks in city downtowns. but your crazy...
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gm, chrysler were all on the brink of failure. and if they failed, the suppliers and distributors that get their business from those companies, they would have died off, too. even ford could have gone down -- production halted. factories shuttered. once proud companies chopped up and sold off for scraps. and all of you -- the men and women who built these companies with your own hands -- would have been hung out to dry. and everybody in this community that depends on you -- restaurant owners, storekeepers, bartenders -- their livelihoods would have been at stake, too. so i wasn't about to let that happen. i placed my bet on american workers. we bet on american ingenuity. i'd make that same bet any day of the week. [applause] three and a half years later, that bet is paying off. this industry has added over a quarter of a million new jobs. assembly lines are humming again. the american auto industry is back. and companies like daimler know you're still a smart bet. they could have made their investment somewhere else, but they didn
gm, chrysler were all on the brink of failure. and if they failed, the suppliers and distributors that get their business from those companies, they would have died off, too. even ford could have gone down -- production halted. factories shuttered. once proud companies chopped up and sold off for scraps. and all of you -- the men and women who built these companies with your own hands -- would have been hung out to dry. and everybody in this community that depends on you -- restaurant owners,...
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ceo alan mulally said at the time, "we believe that if gm and chrysler would have gone into free-fall bankruptcy, they would have taken the supply base down and the industry down and turn the u.s. recession into a depression." that is the teaching moment about the power of the overall innovative skill said, the supply chain, and what that means for our capacity to compete when the company that would have been left standing thought they might have gone down as well. there is so much to say. i wanted to make these viewpoints, overall perspective, talk about manufacturing and research and skills, and i'm very happy to take your questions going forward. [applause] >> i think we have time for a few questions. i will call on people. if you could wait until he comes around with the microphone. >> thank you. aig investments. my question goes to innovation funds, which you brought out. at what stage are you focusing on with respect to either expansion or start-ups? on an execution basis, what is the regional plan as far as national strategy? >> look, i think for those of us in a government job
ceo alan mulally said at the time, "we believe that if gm and chrysler would have gone into free-fall bankruptcy, they would have taken the supply base down and the industry down and turn the u.s. recession into a depression." that is the teaching moment about the power of the overall innovative skill said, the supply chain, and what that means for our capacity to compete when the company that would have been left standing thought they might have gone down as well. there is so much to...
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it would affect private workers, but also auto workers at ford, general motors and chrysler. this is very big. it does exclude police and firefighters. but this was passed very quickly. this did not go through a committee. it didn't go through public debate. so democrats are calling this a subversion of the legislative process. i want you to take a listen to the auto workers president who was here protesting yesterday and also the governor rick snider. >> to give freedom of choice to our workplace and the legislators prove properly and efficiently and when it arrives on my desk, i plan on signing it. >>. the data and facts from the right to work states show it's right to work for less. it's an effort by the wealthy, by people from the right wing that they want to push wages and benefits down. >> the argument is that it makes the state more competitive and it's going to lead to more jobs, right? >> reporter: right. when you look at the data, what we know is that union workers tepid to make more. pretty significantly more than nonunion workers. a median salary for a union worke
it would affect private workers, but also auto workers at ford, general motors and chrysler. this is very big. it does exclude police and firefighters. but this was passed very quickly. this did not go through a committee. it didn't go through public debate. so democrats are calling this a subversion of the legislative process. i want you to take a listen to the auto workers president who was here protesting yesterday and also the governor rick snider. >> to give freedom of choice to our...
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if you had gm stock or chrysler before the bailout your stock value went to zero. 92 and gm was declared bankrupt. stock holder didn't appeared and in the court stock hold ares got a real hair cut. the union won and the bond holders lost. it is it a title myth the idea that unions saved detroit. >> brian: what about the union workers who say those who are not in the union are free rider will benefit from their bargaining power with the car companies, for example. >> look the right to work is enshrined in michigan and right not to have to pay union duce is ensidelined and that is it a good thing. >> gretchen: to me, it is it the most important state that this has happened in because the autoindustry is such a hunal part of the economy there and the union is so strong there. do you agree with that? >> absolutely it is the home of the autoindustry union and the idea that michigan should revert to being a right to work state, that is it a revolution in the labor market. >> steve: we heard in the run up to the election, while the gm autoworkers wound up keeping their pensions and benefits, it
if you had gm stock or chrysler before the bailout your stock value went to zero. 92 and gm was declared bankrupt. stock holder didn't appeared and in the court stock hold ares got a real hair cut. the union won and the bond holders lost. it is it a title myth the idea that unions saved detroit. >> brian: what about the union workers who say those who are not in the union are free rider will benefit from their bargaining power with the car companies, for example. >> look the right...